« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Winch choices.  (Read 1925 times)

Offline Winaje

  • Administrator
  • *
  • Posts: 452
  • Gender: Male
    • http://www.d2au.com
Winch choices.
« on: August 01, 2005, 05:19:46 AM »
Hi all.  I'm starting to think about a winch to fit a TJM steel bar.  Not sure if I should go the Ox Hydraulic, or a battery powered unit.
Does anyone have an Ox fitted to their D2?  How do you find it?
What does it take to run a battery winch successfully?  Does the drum heat up much? (plasmarope compatibility)  I know that this is a complex subject, but at this stage I want to get an idea of the winch to go with.
Logged
Kind Regards, Will Church

Offline dolfn

  • City Commuter
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Winch choices.
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 06:23:42 AM »
Hey Will,

I have had a Brawn 9500 fitted to my TJM bar for about 18months now.  They also supply (at extra cost), a plasma type rope, which is compatible with the winch.  The winch itself, is constructed form components similar to the T-MAX winch you see avertised for about $1200.  Brawn asemble them in AUS and also waterproof the winch.  It is a great winch, very powerfull and fast.  I have mates with the Warn equivilent, and mine seems to outperform their's by quite a margine.  Also the warn doesnt come waterproofed.

Regards

Kelvin
Logged

Offline tempestv8

  • Dirt Driver
  • ***
  • Posts: 68
Winch choices.
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 07:22:02 AM »
Hi Will,

About 12 months ago I wanted to buy a winch and my dilemma was whether to go electric or hydralic.  I did a lot of research into the matter and worked out pretty quickly that the standard power steering pump on the DII (TD5 or V8) was not up to the task.  Simply, it didn't have enough flow rate which would have meant an excruciatingly slow winching experience.

Furthermore the Land Rover engine bay was already chockers so fitment of another pulley or belt just to drive a dedicated pump would have been tricky and add complication to the already busy serpentine belt.

I decided that the *easiest* thing to do was to go electric - and I have absolutely not regretted the decision.  Just need to make sure that the main cranking battery is BIG!   :twisted:   This is easily achieved with the Odyssey batteries which have 1000CCA (cold cranking amps) and the electric winches available today are starting to get really good - I wish I had waited a while to get the more water proofed winches now available from Warn.

I've bought a plasma rope replacement for my winch but am yet to fit it - the hawse fairlead is not compatible with the ARB bullbar so the grinder will be required for some mods before I can fit the rope.

Good luck with your decision!   :P
Logged

Offline dolfn

  • City Commuter
  • *
  • Posts: 10
Winch choices.
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 02:03:46 PM »
Lawrance,

Which oddessy battery did you buy.  My calcium battery is just about ready to be replaced.  Can't fault the old battery, but I like what I hear about the gell batteries.

Cheers

Kelvin
Logged

Offline Redback

  • Mud Masher
  • ****
  • Posts: 151
    • http://forum.australia4wd.com/blog/barrys/index.php?
Winch choices.
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2005, 11:55:02 AM »
Hi Will i have now fitted a winch myself, it was at a price to good to knock back.
It's a Toyo X-9 Superwinch.

Baz.
Logged
001 TD5 Discovery & Redback Country Camper

Offline Slunnie

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 218
    • http://www.slunnie.com
Winch choices.
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2005, 04:30:24 PM »
Gday Will, I was also under the impression that the Rover PAS pumps were not all that powerful for driving winches.... unless you changed it over to another type of pump I guess. I run an old school Warn XD9000 which has been pretty good and have had no dramas with the electric winches running off the standard battery. With an auto you should be ok, though stalling manuals has been a prob in the past. WRT heat buildup in the drum, I'm pretty sure this is due to a brake in them and should be ok for pulls. Actually you can now get plasma type winch cables for low mount electric winches.

In terms of power, the Warns are 4.6hp I think, and stepping up to about 6hp or something similar, though I wouldn't get too hung up on line speed, for our use its more about pulling power.
Logged
Cheers
Slunnie from Simba

Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 100", Landy II ute, Rangie.

gidget

  • Guest
Winch choices.
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2005, 12:58:31 PM »
G'day all, I have a 9500 T-max, used it a couple times & seams to be great, it is a 5.5hp motar & puls well.
Logged

rick

  • Guest
Winch choices.
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2006, 10:55:10 AM »
Had Ox for years, however, when it came out of the D1 it needed a complete new valve block to get it between the rails on D2. Only talking a few mm, but there you go.   Valve block installation for the D2 is quite elegant.

Good thing abpout an Ox is that it will pull all day. Not fast but whatever it pulls will definitely come out.

Pump - Std LR steering pump is OK but if you are planning on lots of use rather than just to get yourself out of the poo, irrespective of whose steering pump, better off getting a dedicated proper hydraulic pump.   Steering pumps are designed to provide best pressure at low speed ( obviously) hence the normal slow rate of recovery with an Ox. However if a dedicated hydraulic pump is used the OX speed and torque can be increased significantly....(then if you want to throw in a cooler :)
Logged

Offline chuck

  • City Commuter
  • *
  • Posts: 24
Winch choices.
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2006, 12:49:04 PM »
Will,

If you look on ebay there is a mob in lilydale that are selling 12000lb winches for a lot less than the major brands & they come with a two year guarantee - I would be interested to hear your comments if you inspect them.

Regards

Chuck
Logged

Offline Slunnie

  • Global Moderator
  • *
  • Posts: 218
    • http://www.slunnie.com
Winch choices.
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2006, 06:48:19 PM »
Just around the corner from you Will. But, will they fit?
Logged
Cheers
Slunnie from Simba

Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 100", Landy II ute, Rangie.

Offline simon_arch1

  • Mud Masher
  • ****
  • Posts: 131
Winch choices.
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2006, 06:26:40 PM »
Phil Townsend bought one of these winches in Lilydale - he has not used it yet, but the spec's are good, and they have a good warranty, service and parts backup...

It does fit - on a TJM bar, with a standard TJM cradle.  I'd go this path next time around - last price fro them I got was only $750 for LROCV members.

cheers,

Simon
Logged

Spud

  • Guest
Winch choices.
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2006, 10:19:37 AM »
Have a Warn 9000lb myself not too impressed with it, it does heat up a lot and have to wait quite a while for it to cool down again before it works again. Hydraulic seems the way to go Maxi-Drive make a pump you can fit to the P.T.O. output of your transfer case so you have all the power you need, no need to tap into your pwr. steering pump. Although have no experience with this it does seem like a good solution
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »